The second guess: Jay makes the call intentionally on the day of the murder, since the other six calls are to people he knows, so Adnan can't say he wasn't with them. I don't think he thought this through all the way, but the reality is that it DOES muddle things it doesn't have to exonerate him in order to help him. He realizes this is a potential problem for him, and so weeks later has Jay talk to Nisha from his cell phone to corroborate that Jay and Nisha once spoke from Adnan's cell phone. How does The Nisha Call fit into the theory? (Answer: I don't think this is something we can completely know, but I have two guesses: one is that the call was an accident by Adnan around the time of the murder. I don't think any other facts matter because Jay must know the killer, must have been involved in the murder and the only other person with Jay is Adnan. I don't know why Adnan would pick someone who he was not close to help cover up a murder. I think Adnan didn't turn on Jay because Adnan didn't think he would lose the case. I think Jay's testimony is inconsistent because he is an accomplice and he is trying to frame the events in a way that doesn't implicate himself. There is no evidence that Jay could have killed Hae so quickly and easily given that they are not known to be close friends. Given the short time frame, Adnan is the only one who could have gotten that close to Hae that quickly. Hae had to have been killed just after school and had to have been killed by someone she knew and trusted. In addition, no other person Jay is in contact with that day is known to be involved with Hae. Another person couldn't have gotten to Hae so quickly given they would not have known that the car and cellphone was going to be exchanged that day. The car and cellphone exchange means that it couldn't have been spontaneous. To happen in a short time frame, the murder had to have been premeditated. The logistics of the cars, shovels and cell phone strongly indicates there was another person involved and the only other person that could have been involved is Adnan. And Jay's information very strongly indicates that he was with the killer that day. Adnan statements indicates that he was with Jay that day and Adnan is the only person with Jay that doesn't have a strong alibi. It is the statements that Adnan makes about what he and Jay did together. I think there is only one source of information that we need to review. The one fact that is not in dispute is that Jay knows too much about the crime and has communicated his knowledge about it in a way that strongly supports that he knows the killer. Redditor swframe666 explains why Adnan had to be the killer: Friends of his might have been reluctant to come forward with their true feelings about Adnan over fear of being ostracized from their community for implicating Adnan in Hae's murder, the theory goes. So, although Adnan seems charming and smart when he talks to Koenig, and she has admitted that she thinks he's a good guy and likes talking to him, some still think he's guilty and has managed to manipulate those around him. Because the Muslim community Adnan grew up in is so tight-knit, according to this person, those who were close to Adnan might have been afraid to speak out over fear of retribution from their community. Someone who claims to have known Adnan growing up writes on Reddit that several of Adnan's former friends saw psychopathic tendencies in him. We've been given a lot of information about the case, but there are also many people we haven't heard from, including some of Adnan's friends. While listening to 'Serial,' it's important to keep in mind that we don't know everything. Justforserial also has explanations for the various other cellphone calls from Adnan's phone that occur before and after the murder, but this theory as a whole seems farfetched. Jenn holds down HaeвЂ™s arms while she is being strangled, and this is when she kicks the blinker off. Jay sees red, because Hae is threatening his relationship, and he reaches around her neck and strangles her in the car. However, Hae is strong willed and she argues back about how Stephanie is one of her best friends and she is going to tell her no matter what they say. They had intended at first just to scare her and intimidate her into keeping their secret. Jay and Jenn hadnвЂ™t intended to kill Hae, but they had had a conversation that if she wouldnвЂ™t agree to keep quiet they would kill her. The interaction starts as a conversation but escalates quickly. Hae is sitting in the driverвЂ™s seat, Jenn in the front seat and Jay in the back.

Hae meets Jenn and Jay in the parking lot, sheвЂ™s surprised to see Jay because she expected it just to be Jenn.

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